[.ca] Measured Lies: The Bell Curve Examined (ISBN 0312172281)

Very Little Substance:
When I read the Bell Curve in 1994 and again this year, I found it convincing, though I don't consider myself a racist. I was looking forward to hearing the "other side" of the debate, and this book provided one of the first opportunities. But I was truly dissapointed. I did start out biased in that I didn't expect to be convinced. But I expected the contributing writers (or at least some of them) to provide some scientific evidence behind their claims. Yet precious little is there. Don't get me wrong, it is well written, eliquent, and entertaining, it just doesn't hold up to scrutiny. For one thing, so many of the writers clearly didn't even read the Bell Curve. They use ideology instead of science in a desperately vain attempt to make their point. That point? Most could guess before reading that all contributing writers feel that it is in fact environment and socioeconomic factors are the main (or only) things that contribute to who we become. They do not give an inch on their traditionally liberal views that all or nearly all the differences in behavior in blacks, whites, and other races are the result of society. Genes play no role in their world. We must open our eyes. The Bell Curve is not correct on everything. But the genie is out of the bottle. There is just too much evidence in so many scientific fields to support the main thesis of the Bell Curve.

Although weak and biased,very interesting as a prospect.:
In this book you'll find some reasonable and scientific objetions to The bell curve,but also a lot of nonscientific arguments,plain lies,literature and ideology.I'll give you some literal quotes. 1.Page 425:"I'm not interested in going to a laboratory in an effort to attemp to prove that Blacks are inferior to Whites or vive versa." Nor Herrstein nor Murray never said this,they said that Blacks are ON AVERAGE less inteligent than Whites (And whites less inteligent on average that Asians,and Asians less inteligent on average that Jews.What a strange racist-nazis,they say that jews are the smartest people in the world and that we caucasians are the third group in inteligence). 2.Page 426:"Even if their claim were to be scientifically true,there would have to be no exceptions to the rule.In other words.we could not have a Dubois,a Martin Luther King...()...among a constellation of great black leaders and intellectuals in the world". My good.This proves that this person (Paulo Freire,a well known educator) have never take a brief glimpse on The bell curve.If you spend ten minutes staring The bell curve you'll find two big illustrations on page 279 with the Black and White IQ distribution in the NLSY.If you look at the illustration above you'll see that a lot of black people have IQs above 120 and even 140.How you can write in a book subtitled The bell curve examined without takink even a brief look at the book?. 3.Page 40:"Only "Caucasoids" meet all 21 items on Rushton's "Criteria for civilization" checklist".(Rushton wrote a very interesting book titled Race,evolution, and behavior).That's a plain lie.Rushton said that Asians ("Mongoloids") also meet the 21 items (Race,evolution, and behavior.Page 142). 4.Page 408:"Above all,a university's mission should be a humane one of seeking to further equal treatment of women and men of all kinds.If work is conducted which moves us in other direction,it should be plainly seen as against a university's mission.The issue then,...()... is not,I repeat is this good science?.Or even,is this correct science?.But clearly,is this socially responsible science?". MAY THE FORCE BE WITH US.Galileo was a social irresponsible sciencist because he undermined the confidence of the people in the Bible whit the geocentric theory.The same for Darwin,who created anxiety and great sorrow on the people whit his horrible "we come from ape" theory.And what about the discoverers of the pill?.They destroyed our sexual morality.They were very irresponsable sciencits.I think that when you're making such irracional statements you're loosing the game. e-mails are welcomed.Language corrections too (I'm not a native english speaker).Peace.

"The problem with being politically correct.":
The Bell Curve is not "exact science" but well researched observations. The Bell Curve findings are eye-opening and sad. Unless the sub-cultures in America, mainly the blacks, get in step with mainstream America, the Bell Curve notion will continue to prove the observations made by the author of the The Bell Curve theory correct over and over again It's a shame that the Bell Curve is considered racist by blacks. The black's hatred of caucasians will always blind them to the steps that they need to take for them to share in the American Dream and contribute to American society rather than being lifelong liabilities to it.

interesting and provacative....:
offering an alternative view to the troubles in todays lower to middle class society...the analysis of IQ versus achievement, propogation, and economic status was enlightening and true. From our perspective it seems that the troubles in todays society is due to a lowering of intelligence by virtue of the vast majority of low intellect people supported by the welfare system.....Ignorance breeds ingnorance....