[.ca] The Years of Rice and Salt (ISBN 0553109200)

From Amazon.com:
Award-winning author Kim Stanley Robinson delivers a thoughtful and powerful examination of cultures and the people who shape them. How might human history be different if 14th-century Europe was utterly wiped out by plague, and Islamic and Buddhist societies emerged as the world's dominant religious and political forces? The Years of Rice and Salt considers this question through the stories of individuals who experience and influence various crucial periods in the seven centuries that follow. The credible alternate history that Robinson constructs becomes the framework for a tapestry of ideas about philosophy, science, theology, and politics. At the heart of the story are fundamental questions: what is the purpose of life and death? Are we eternal? Do our choices matter? The particular achievement of this book is that it weaves these threads into a story that is both intellectually and emotionally engaging. This is a highly recommended, challenging, and ambitious work. --Roz Genessee

fascinating book!:
I don't read fiction very often. I read mostly history, philosophy and liberal-left books on contemporary politics. I was very impressed by this book, though, because it connects all three of my interests in a work of historical fiction. The book is really about "What is to be done?" concerning human suffering. There are many great speeches from a number of characters that I could relate to. I do agree with centerman's critique when he wrote "The characters almost always come back as a world shakers (or attendants to world shakers) and never as pig farmers." The character Fromwest makes a speech in favor of social history ("the masses matter"), but most of the characters are intellectuals. That's the only shortcoming. That, and I wish the author had included a bibliography because the book has stimulated my interest in a number of fields. I plan to buy copies for deep-thinking folk I know and hope to discuss it with them.

a big disappointment:
Based on available info, I anticipated an interesting alternate history. There may have been one - but it was hidden behind a lot of distracting mumbo-jumbo about previous lives. I gave up after 150 pages.

Too Much Effort:
After plowing through slightly over 200 pages, I surrendered. Character after character, generation after generation, there just didn't seem to be much of a point to the meandering commentary. If an author can't generate more interest than this after 200 pages, he doesn't deserve my attention.

Take notes as you read ...:
Problems: Loooong novel, and so sweeping that it is very hard to remember the characters and their relationships as you leap along in time. At times the interminable detailed personal discussions between characters become wearying, and I skimmed paragraphs or even pages. And last, it was not what I expected: more interpersonal stuff than historical stuff. Virtues: Really neat characters, including an African slave-eunuch, feminist Islamic women, a Japanese explorer who joins a native \oNorth-American\c society, a protective tiger. Wonderful ideas, including the encounters in the bardo, the place of waiting and judgement between lives. I loved the ending! A good book, but not in a hurry.

A fascinating alternate history:
This is a complex and challenging novel, covering a group of related characters through multiple lifetimes, over centuries from about 1400 to the present, in an elaborate alternate history in which the black plague almost completely wiped out the population of Europe, preventing the rise of European culture and religion to world dominance. Definitely not a lite read; it takes effort to follow Robinson's alternate history, accompanied by alternate geography and chronology. But readers who have a taste for serious and thoughtful SF will be rewarded for their efforts. Some highlights from the alternate history: (Contains some spoilers for early sections) about 1400, a mutated and incredibly potent version of the black plague wipes out most of Europe, eliminating it as a political or military force. Christianity is eliminated as a civilization, and the later events are dominated by Chense and Islamic culture. Muslims, some of them refugees from mainstream Islam, gradually repopulate Europe. Meanwhile, a Ming expedition, outfitted to invade Japan, gets caught in a strong Eastern current, misses Japan entirely, and winds up in San Francisco Bay. The expedition is still very much a success, especially when it travels South and discovers the rich mines of Peru. A later Chinese fleet succeeds in conquering Japan. A group of reformist Muslims, chased by more traditional sects, sails west from Normandy and discovers Manhattan. The Iriquois federation, becoming aware of the presence of alien cultures on both the West and East coasts, forms the North American tribes into a great union, capable of keeping the outsiders largely restricted to the coasts and holding the interior of the continent. There is more, covering alternate histories of the Industrial Revolution, WWI, and the dicovery of fission, up to an age that look like roughly the present, with increasing global cooperation and, presumably, an alternate Francis Fukuyama to announce the End of Alternate History. At key events in this timeline, we meet repeatedly the same group of people, recognized by keeping the same initials. The key figures are: B - A spiritual seeker, frequently a Buddhist clergyman. I - A scientist or intellectual, fascinated with acquiring knowledge. K - The activist of the group, at first seeking revenge, at other times power, and ultimately social transformation. All of these are followed through various lives and deaths, meeting up repeatedly in the Bardo, the between life area of judgment from Tibetan Buddhism. There are some minor accompanying characters, such as S, which is generally a feckless or irresponsible person, often of considerable authority, but these are the main ones. Robinson has created numerous striking characters from these broad templates: a soldier in Tamerlane's army who ultimately becomes a slave in China, a protective tiger, a servant boy caught in the floods of a Chinese California, a young woman growing up in post-war Islamic France, and many more. It's really a virtuoso trick to fit 600 years of alternate history into one book while still having real characters to live the history, something Robinson has accomplished superbly.